Data &
Technology
Research
Reports
Report Solutions
Reports Library
Actionable
Strategies
Free
Resources
Simple Backtest Calculator
Simple Seasonality Calculator
The Kelly Criterion Calculator
Sentiment Geo Map
Public Research Reports
Free Webinar
Pricing
Company
About
Meet Our Team
In the News
Testimonials
Client Success Stories
Contact
Log inLoginSign up
< BACK TO ALL REPORTS

Consumers negative for now, but hopeful for tomorrow

Jason Goepfert
2020-04-29
Overall consumer confidence cratered in April, but much of that was focused on the present. Consumers' expectations about the future actually improved with the stock market. That hasn't necessarily been a bad thing. And their confidence in stocks remains subdued, despite a big rally during the month.

Consumers have been greatly impacted by the economic and psychological toll from the pandemic, and the depth of the impact is showing now in monthly surveys. We saw yesterday that consumer confidence suffered one of the biggest drops ever.

The "yeah, but" counter-argument to that drop could be that consumers only became more pessimistic about now, not the future. The Conference Board separates the survey into confidence about present conditions versus the future, and there was a massive difference between the two.

Confidence about the present dived 90 points, more than double any other month-to-month decline. Yet confidence about the future actually rose 7 points, likely helped by the rebound in stocks.

There have only been a few times when consumers' confidence in their present situation declined by more than 10 points while they became more optimistic about the future. Only one of those triggered in the past four decades.

This happened at the market bottom in 1974, but otherwise was early in de-risking phases in 1970, earlier in 1974, and 2001 following the 9/11 tragedy. Because of that, future returns were terrible three times and excellent once.

Such big drops in the present situation are unusual, so we have to relax the parameters if we want to get a larger sample size. If we look for times when present conditions dropped at least 5 points while expectations for the future rose at least 5 points, then we get the following.

In both studies, the very short-term was good, helped by a bullish seasonal pattern at the beginning of most months. Returns after that were a little better than random, with a mix of moderate gains and losses in the months ahead.

Even though stocks rebounded more than 10% in April, maybe they hadn't rallied enough for most consumers to notice during the study period. More of them became optimistic specifically about the stock market during the month, but still, only a net 4.6% of them expect stocks to keep rallying.

Below, we can see every month when stocks jumped at least 5%, and consumers became more optimistic, but fewer than a net 5% of them expected stocks to continue to rise.

This was a mostly positive thing, and returns were better than those months when more than a net 5% of consumers expected stocks to rise (in those cases, the 2-month forward return was -0.4%). Consumers jumped the gun by becoming more optimistic in 2001, 2002, and 2015, but otherwise, stocks did okay.

It's easy to be a knee-jerk contrarian and assume that because consumers didn't completely give up about the future in April, then they're not really pessimistic and we must have further to fall in order to wring out the optimism and allow stocks to recover. It hasn't really worked that way in the past, though. The current drop in present conditions is so many standard deviations from the norm that no historical precedent can serve as a template here, but from months that look at least passingly like the present, it might be a modest shorter-term positive.

Sorry, you don't have access to this report

Upgrade your subscription plan to get access
Go to Dasboard
DATA &
TECHnologies
IndicatorEdge
‍
BackTestEdge
‍
Other Tools
‍
DataEdge API
RESEARCH
reports
Research Solution
‍
Reports Library
‍
actionable
Strategies
Trading Strategies
‍
Smart Stock Scanner
‍
FREE
RESOUrCES
Simple Backtest
Calculator
Simple Seasonality
Calculator
The Kelly Criterion
Calculator
Sentiment Geo Map
‍
Public Research Reports
‍
Free Webinar
COMPANY
‍
About
‍
Meet our Team
‍
In the News
‍
Testimonials
‍
Client Success Stories
Pricing
Bundle pricing
‍
Announcements
‍
FAQ
© 2024 Sundial Capital Research Inc. All rights reserved.
Setsail Marketing
TermsPrivacyAffiliate Program
Risk Disclosure: Futures and forex trading contains substantial risk and is not for every investor. An investor could potentially lose all or more than the initial investment. Risk capital is money that can be lost without jeopardizing ones’ financial security or life style. Only risk capital should be used for trading and only those with sufficient risk capital should consider trading. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

Hypothetical Performance Disclosure: Hypothetical performance results have many inherent limitations, some of which are described below. No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown; in fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particular trading program. One of the limitations of hypothetical performance results is that they are generally prepared with the benefit of hindsight. In addition, hypothetical trading does not involve financial risk, and no hypothetical trading record can completely account for the impact of financial risk of actual trading. for example, the ability to withstand losses or to adhere to a particular trading program in spite of trading losses are material points which can also adversely affect actual trading results. There are numerous other factors related to the markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program which cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all which can adversely affect trading results.

Testimonial Disclosure: Testimonials appearing on this website may not be representative of other clients or customers and is not a guarantee of future performance or success.