Products
SentimenTrader Trading Tools
‍
Backtest Engine
My Trading Toolkit
Correlation Analysis
Seasonality
Indicators & Data API
‍
Proprietary Indicators & Charts
Market Data API
Strategies & Scanner
‍
50+ Trading Strategies
Smart Stock Scanner
Research Reports
‍
Research Solutions
Reports Library
Free Resources
Simple Backtest Calculator
Simple Seasonality Calculator
The Kelly Criterion Calculator
Sentiment Geo Map
Public Research Reports
Pricing
Company
About
In the News
Testimonials
Client Success Stories
Contact
Log inLoginSign up
< BACK TO ALL REPORTS

The Big Money Is (Kind of) Bullish

Jason Goepfert
2021-10-20
The latest Big Money poll from Barron's shows that smart money investors have tempered their optimistic outlook significantly from where they were in April. That's a mild negative for the next six months for stocks.

According to some of the largest and most sophisticated investors in the world, stocks are a good place to be. But we may have to suffer some trouble first.

The latest issue of Barron's notes:

America's money managers are optimistic about the long-term outlook for the economy, the financial markets, and the recovery from the Covid pandemic. It's the short-term prognosis that concerns them. 

Monetary and fiscal policies are in flux. Supply-chain bottlenecks and labor shortages are igniting inflation and threatening corporate profit margins, and the economic recovery from 2020's recession-so robust until now-is decelerating. Add pricey stock valuations and rising bond yields, and the immediate future suddenly looks more challenging than the recent past.

A BIG DROP IN OPTIMISM

In the survey that went out about a month ago, more managers became concerned about stocks. The Bull Ratio fell from 60% in the April survey to 38% now.

The scatter plot below shows returns in the S&P 500 from one survey to the next vs. the Big Money Bull Ratio. The trendline slopes up and to the right, suggesting that the more bullish the Big Money is, the better the S&P's future returns were. A true contrary indicator would show a trendline that slopes down and to the right. There is a lot of variability among the data points, though.

When we look at each issue and the Big Money Bull Ratio versus the S&P 500's returns until the next survey (about six months), we can see this more specifically.

When the Bull Ratio was below 40%, as it is now, the S&P returned a median 2.4% until the next survey. It sported a positive return 59% of the time. But when the Bull Ratio was above 40%, then the S&P returned a much healthier 6.3% over the next (approximately) six months, and was positive after 79% of the surveys.

So, it was a better sign for stocks when managers were more bullish as opposed to less bullish.

OTHER MONEY MANAGERS ARE ALSO MODESTLY OPTIMISTIC

Another "smart money" survey, from Bank of America Merrill Lynch, shows that fund managers are a net 16% overweight U.S. stocks, a middling amount relative to their history.

These folks have an even more mixed record at being over/underweight stocks at the right times. The regression line is about flat, suggesting there is very little relationship between how bullish the managers are positioned and the S&P 500's return over the next six months.

When these managers were modestly overweight, like between 10% - 20%, then the S&P did tend to rise, with a positive return 79% of the time. That's just slightly better than any random 6-month stretch over the study period, so it doesn't tell us much. Except maybe don't read too much into any headlines about how the managers might be positioned at the moment.

We've looked at these surveys every which way over the past 20 years, with the conclusion that they're mostly just interesting. They generate headlines because everyone wants to believe that large money managers have a crystal ball, and they don't.

These are some very smart and savvy folks but they suffer from groupthink like all of us. When they become extremely bullish or bearish, there may be a very slight contrary nature to their behavior, but overall it's better to be bullish when they are. The two surveys are giving off slightly different vibes, with the overall takeaway being a wash. It's not enough for us to be concerned about the prospects for stocks, and also not enough to generate a lot of excitement. Maybe a very slight edge to the "stocks should go up" crowd.

Sorry, you don't have access to this report

Upgrade your subscription plan to get access
Go to Dasboard
PRODUCTS
SentimenTrader
Trading Tools
Indicators & Data API
‍
Strategies & Scanner
‍
Research Reports
FREE
RESOUrCES
Simple Backtest
Calculator
Simple Seasonality
Calculator
The Kelly Criterion
Calculator
Sentiment Geo Map
‍
Public Research Reports
‍
Pricing
Bundle pricing
‍
Announcements
‍
FAQ
COMPANY
‍
About
‍
In the News
‍
Testimonials
‍
Client Success Stories
CONTACT
‍
General Inquiries
‍
Media Inquiries
‍
Financial Professionals Inquiries
‍
© 2025 Sundial Capital Research Inc. All rights reserved.
Setsail Marketing
TermsPrivacyAffiliate Program
Risk Disclosure: Futures and forex trading contains substantial risk and is not for every investor. An investor could potentially lose all or more than the initial investment. Risk capital is money that can be lost without jeopardizing ones’ financial security or life style. Only risk capital should be used for trading and only those with sufficient risk capital should consider trading. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

Hypothetical Performance Disclosure: Hypothetical performance results have many inherent limitations, some of which are described below. No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown; in fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particular trading program. One of the limitations of hypothetical performance results is that they are generally prepared with the benefit of hindsight. In addition, hypothetical trading does not involve financial risk, and no hypothetical trading record can completely account for the impact of financial risk of actual trading. for example, the ability to withstand losses or to adhere to a particular trading program in spite of trading losses are material points which can also adversely affect actual trading results. There are numerous other factors related to the markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program which cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all which can adversely affect trading results.

Testimonial Disclosure: Testimonials appearing on this website may not be representative of other clients or customers and is not a guarantee of future performance or success.