Smart Money vs Dumb Money Is Getting Extreme


  • Jason Goepfert

    Jason Goepfert

    Published: 2019-10-30 at 11:36:27 CST

This is an abridged version of our recent reports and notes. For immediate access with no obligation, sign up for a 30-day free trial now.


Confidence conflict

Quite a few times over the past couple of months, we’ve discussed how various aspects of sentiment were curiously subdued. From individual investor surveys to fund flows to hedge fund exposure, and many more, we were seeing readings typically present during much more prolonged and severe pullbacks.

That’s starting to change.

Smart Money is becoming less confident that stocks will rally in the weeks and months ahead, while Dumb Money is becoming more confident than they will. The spread between them is getting extreme, dropping below -40% for the first time in months.

It is less reliable as a signal than the opposite extreme, though the S&P’s annualized returns when the spread is this wide is only 2%.

When the spread fell to this low of a level for the first time in at least 50 days when the S&P 500 was within 5% of a 52-week high at the time - incorporating context (being within 5% of a peak) and momentum (the first reading in at least 50 days) - the S&P's forward returns weren't great, but also not terrible. As it gets more extreme, we will need to pay more attention.


MSCI World Index

The MSCI World Index (ex-U.S.) broke out to a new 1 year high.

The 4 other times it broke out to a 1 year high for the first time in >1 year, the MSCI World Index surged over the next 6-12 months.

It was also a good sign for U.S. stocks, as the S&P also surged, even more than the MSCI World Index.


Big Money

Be sure to check out respected Wall Street strategist noting the curiously low sentiment among big money investors we noted yesterday.


The post titled Smart Money vs Dumb Money Is Getting Extreme was originally published as on SentimenTrader.com on 2019-10-30.

At SentimenTrader.com, our service is not focused on market timing per se, but rather risk management. That may be a distinction without a difference, but it's how we approach the markets. We study signs that suggest it is time to raise or lower market exposure as a function of risk relative to probable reward. It is all about risk-adjusted expectations given existing evidence. Learn more about our service , research, models and indicators.


Follow us on Twitter for up to the minute analysis of market action.